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Comment on Are You Part Cherokee? by Sharptalon

Sharptalon — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 11:46:48 +0000

I think the idea of a Cherokee princess came from Moytoy who was the first who was the first Cherokee to have a formal relationship with Great Britain. In 1730 Alexander Cuming declared him the emperor of all Cherokees & a treaty that declared Cherokees loyal to King George to encourage trade. Because of the governments attempts at assimilation, such as the idea of a blood quantum & boarding schools, many mixed blood people have lost valuable information about their history. However, if you are Indian it can be seen in little ways that you and your family think and live. Maybe you should research the rolls to preserve that information for your descendants, but after all the hardships that they had to endure you should not be ashamed to claim your anscesters were Indian even if it is that one great great grandmother who might have lost so much during her time, but whose blood still runs through your blue veins that can be seen on your white skin.

Comment on Are You Part Cherokee? by Ken Herman

Ken Herman — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:51:21 +0000

Hello

My story began when I was a little boy. I always had a strong feeling about being Indian. My maternal Grandfather (whose European ancestors have been in this country since the 1500’s) would just shrug when I asked him if we had Indian ancestry. However his sister once told me that they had thought that their paternal grandmother Mollie Cross had some Indian blood. (My research suggests that Mollie may have had some Powhattan ancestry although I have not been able to verify that yet).

This then began a quest for me of several years of family research where I was finally able to locate an ancestor from the area of what is now Walkerstown North Carolina. His name was Thomas Ring (1757-1846) and he was a documented Revolutionary War veteran. (Thomas is the great-great grandfather of Mollie’s husband Lewis Zike).

According to numerous Ring distant relatives of mine that I have been in contact with, various family stories all say that we derive a Cherokee bloodline thru Thomas Ring. I am still researching this particular Cherokee connection.

I then went a step further and participated in two differant DNA tests from separate companies, both of which found certain distinct Native American genetic markers within my DNA. The second test even shows a map of the Western hemishere, which corresponds with the regions that my Indian ancestors were from, based upon population studies conducted with the tribes who inhabit those areas, (i.e. Cherokee locations of both North Carolina and Oklahoma, as well as tribes from Michigan, British Columbia, and southern Alaska.

I am very proud of my Indian heritage and will not let that history be lost again. I will make sure that my children and grandchildren are all aware of this knowledge so that it can be passed on to future generations.

Ken Herman

Comment on Contact Me by BrokenClaw

BrokenClaw — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:35:20 +0000

Jennifer, unfortunately, clan affiliation was not recorded on the tribal censuses. As far as I know, the only time that a family’s clan is documented is when someone reports their own family history, or includes it in an obituary or on a gravestone. In other words, it’s just one of those things that people “know”.

However, in 1880, James Dorsey wrote a partial census of the Otoe-Missouria in Nebraska and included clan affiliations on that report. I can tell you that Sam Ely is recorded there in the following manner:
“Tu(Mo) Hau-we-no-we… Two Days… Sam Ely… stepson of Mun-che-han-che”.
What that means is that Sam Ely was Bear Clan (Tunapi) of the Missouria, and his Indian name, more commonly spelled How-a-no-wa, means Two Days.

Adding to the confusion is that there was another person, Louis Ely, of similar age, but I have not been able to discern how or if he was related to Sam Ely. It’s possible that the Louis Ely family is Owl clan, but I have no documentation of that either way.

Hope that helps.

Comment on Contact Me by jennifer Gammill

jennifer Gammill — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 23:33:12 +0000

Great work with the site! Lots of information. Last July /09 my family- Ely- (descdendants of Sam and Mary ) attended the encampment for the first time in 30yrs. The one question we were ask alot was, “What clan are you?”. Well I have no clue. We were told many things growing up. One lady did tell me the Elys were and have always been Owls. Do you know if this is true and is there anyway to recearch it? most of the Items do not list the clan information. Thank you.

Comment on Chippewa-Munsee Tribal Photograph 1900 by Marilyn Runnels

Marilyn Runnels — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 02:24:37 +0000

My great grandmother Ada LaRue was of the Swan Creek MI Chippewa’s she had no known father but has her Grandfathers name. I am wondering is there any way to find out her fathers name have exhausted all my ideas. I sure would love any info anyone has to share.

Comment on Contact Me by Gene DeLaney

Gene DeLaney — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:54:47 +0000

I just found your site today and very excited with what little I have read so far. My brother and I are wanting to identify our family history on our father’s side. In the early 80’s my father found his biological mother and sisters. He was put up for adoption when he was four and is 71 now. Their story made the Oklahomian newspaper when they reunited. He told me his mother and father was both Cherokee Indian, which is how I found your site through goggle under ‘Am I part Cherokee’ . I did find the uncle my dad claims is his, Tom Hand, on the Cherokees by Blood rolls. His roll number is 19173. But here is what prompted to write you. Where do I go now to prove indeed this is my father’s uncle or great-uncle more likely? This question might be premature since I have not read your full website but any assistance would be greatly appreciated, Sincerely Gene

Comment on Native American Events in Maryland by danielle blair

danielle blair — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:24:52 +0000

I have learned that there is a native american burial site At Perry Point. I am a new employee there and would like to learn more.Where would I find information regarding this?

Comment on Contact Me by SSJ

SSJ — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:43:55 +0000

I wanted to thank you for all the hard work you have put into this. It is astounding and full of information. I’ve been able to track father’s family as far back as great-great-grandparents with very little effort. Again, thank you!

Comment on Contact Me by blackwolf

blackwolf — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 14:19:40 +0000

i’m am from the munsee band of delaware indians my great granfather was chief of muncey of the thames(willis henry logan) and my great grandmother was mary white and that is all i know ,can you help me find more history on my family

Comment on Chippewa-Munsee Genealogy by Deb Schorzman

Deb Schorzman — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:57:58 +0000

I descend from Lucy Mae Burgoon, daughter of David Burgoon and wife of William A. Williamson. I am finding her on the Chippewa-Munsee rootsweb site but not on the 1859 or 1900 census. How would I prove that she is indeed of this tribe?